Protestation (Deutsch)

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𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️‍⚧️🦋

4 Wochen her

#AI

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John Hummel

4 Wochen her

Hear hear!

I have spoken to my students and colleagues for a long time about the carbon footprint of training an LLM (years ago, it was the equivalent of NYC for a month), but just tonight I learned about the carbon footprint of merely asking an LLM a single question: The cost is the same as the cost of running a lightbulb for months. And this is just for one question.

The reason is that an LLM has trillions of free parameters (connection weights), and every time you ask an LLM a question, it has to use all of these connections/parameters to answer it.

In other words, it takes the whole network to answer even a simple question.

By contrast, whenever a human answers a question, she uses only the part of her brain that's relevant.

LLMs may appear smart, and in some senses they may even be smart (but in fewer than ways they appear to be), but they are nothing like human intelligence.

Among many other ways, they are far less energy efficient.

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libramoon

3 Wochen her

they are in no sense smart
they have no actual intelligence (reasoning ability)
they pick up words and throw them back out when triggered by questions or dialog
they have no concept of truth, so just say what makes "sense" from the kinds of stuff they see on the internet

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John Hummel

3 Wochen her

I think you nailed it, @libramoon.

@libramoon

frater chaos mag das.

Whuffo

3 Wochen her

Reasoning is already part of ChatGPT. Now the LLM will apply reason to questions and work out the best answers.

libramoon

3 Wochen her

no, it's not

John Hummel mag das.

libramoon

3 Wochen her

it is not a reasoning agent

John Hummel mag das.

frater chaos

3 Wochen her

there is more to intelligence than "reason"

John Hummel mag das.

John Hummel

3 Wochen her

"Reasoning is already part of ChatGPT."

So I have heard, @Whuffo, but since the software is proprietary, I have no way of verifying whether it's true. Based on GPT's behavior, I believe the claim to be false.

As an expert on reasoning, neural computation, and artificial neural networks, I will make the following prediction: If ChatGPT has been made capable of actual reasoning (as opposed to learning to give empty verbal responses that sound like they're the result of reasoning, which heretofore is all it has demonstrated), then either (a) it has been augmented with a symbolic side-processor or (b) the progenitors of the transformer architecture have moved even further in the direction of implementing a von Neumann architecture in a "neural network".

Look: I don't doubt that AI will eventually achieve human-level intelligence.

I have taught my students for three decades that it will.

The scientific (and philosophical) question is whether associationism (i.e., pure learning) will ever get us there.

The promoters of "modern AI" want to claim that learning is all there is: "We don't need to understand the problem. We just need to set a learning algorithm on it."

This is literally 99.9% of modern AI.

This is where AI is because this is where the profit is.

This is how AI will remain AI into the foreseeable future.

And it's dead fucking wrong.

Back when I was young, we believed that in order to solve a problem, one had to understand it. I still believe that.

Modern AI believes that in order to solve a problem, all you need is a learning algorithm.

That perspective is so deeply wrong in so many ways that could explain to you if you could tolerate it.

@Whuffo

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John Hummel

3 Wochen her

"there is more to intelligence than “reason”"

Yes there is, @frater chaos and my partner reminds me of that constantly -- I also believe it.

Reason should not be the thing that guides you life, but instead the thing that tells you when your life is not on the track it should be.

@frater chaos

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libramoon

3 Wochen her

please, explain to me, this intelligence beyond reason

headrift

3 Wochen her

It's imaginary, like a delusion

John Hummel

3 Wochen her

Depending on how one defines it, "reason" is the purview of fluid intelligence, but there is also crystalized intelligence (aka "knowledge"). And my partner constantly insists that logic/reason without empathy is a disaster, and she has a point.

headrift mag das.

headrift

3 Wochen her

Depending on how one defines it, “reason” is the purview of fluid intelligence, but there is also crystalized intelligence (aka “knowledge”). And my partner constantly insists that logic/reason without empathy is a disaster, and she has a point.

Agreed, but empathy for one individual doesn't translate well to empathy for a group. The individual has to give up a certain amount of individuality to mesh with a group... the amount of that meshing is the social dynamic, and the individual may or may not have much influence on it

John Hummel mag das.

John Hummel

3 Wochen her

Agreed. Empathy and social dynamics are both very tricky business. I think my partner's problem with logic and reason, disembodied from empathy (broadly defined), is that "logic" has long been used as a tool of oppression by males of European ancestry (of which I happen to be one) against everyone else. And although (or perhaps because) I value logic above almost everything else, I have to concede (on logical grounds) that she has a point.

I guess my (current) view is that logic/reason, properly applied, are the best way to get from where you are to where you want to be. As such, whether it/they are a "good" thing depends in large measure on where you want to be.

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John Hummel

3 Wochen her

I suspect my parter would disagree with my last statement, by the way. I suspect she would say something like:

A clever person can use logic/reason to "prove" whatever the hell they want. Logic is less a tool for getting to the truth than it is a tool of persuasion. And of oppression.

And I have to concede that it has been used that way. But just because a tool has been misused doesn't mean it's a bad tool for the purpose for which it was intended.

Here's the hard truth about deductive logic: The conclusion of a valid deductive argument is guaranteed to be true if the premises are true.

The rub lies in the premises. An honest broker, with faith in their premises, is well-advised to use logic to reach a true conclusion. But unfortunately, a dishonest broker who wants to "prove" a point can choose premises so that logic takes them where they want to end up.

And it's up to the rest of us to figure out which kind of broker the presenter of a logical argument is.

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headrift

3 Wochen her

I think logic and emotions are the usual two sides of a coin with many names. Yin/Yang, Female/Male, Feeling/Thought, take your pick. For me balance between the two (with a certain amount of personal masculine origin for individuality) is my goal shrug

headrift

3 Wochen her

Same goes for emotionality to me. The child might want to do one thing that the adult disagrees with. We could let the children win on everything, but that doesn't lead to a stable society

John Hummel

3 Wochen her

"For me balance between the two (with a certain amount of personal masculine origin for individuality) is my goal shrug"

I'm not certain what you mean here, so I'm not trying to speak against you, but I see the two less as competitors than (as you intimidated earlier) forces that need to be used together: One's goals are set more or less directly by emotion; then given those goals, and the reality before you, logic tells you whether there is a path from here to there, and if there is, what it is.

On that, two of my goals is (a) a democratic America come Jan. 6, 2025, and (b) a solution to the climate crisis. (Clearly, goal (b) depends on goal (a).) Logic has yet to tell me whether there is a path to achieving those goals and what it is.

headrift mag das.

headrift

3 Wochen her

Sometimes it's easier to balance

John Hummel mag das.

John Hummel

3 Wochen her

If by that you mean Sometimes you have no choice other than the shit sandwich reality has served you, then I agree.

headrift mag das.

headrift

3 Wochen her

That works too, but I like to think I can modulate the choices presented to me to some extent

John Hummel mag das.

John Hummel

3 Wochen her

Agreed, we can do that to some extent. Sometimes to greater extent than others.

headrift mag das.

Protestation (Deutsch)

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Feuer_revisionistischer_verrat http://ciml.250x.com/archive/pla/german/feuer_revisionistischer_verrat.html

@Om*

4 Monate her

evolve, contribute...

832159

#empathy #bullies

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mrd_ill_be_back hat dies geteilt

Digit

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many mere maps

Protestation (Deutsch)

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Engels an Karl Kautsky in Wien. London, 12.09.1882 http://www.mlwerke.de/me/me35/me35_356.htm

Protestation (Deutsch)

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Seid immer wachsam gegen Trotzkismus, Reformismus und Revisionismus!

Protestation (Deutsch)

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W.I. Lenin: Der "Linke Radikalismus", die Kinderkrankheit im Kommunismus (1920) https://www.marxists.org/deutsch/archiv/lenin/1920/linksrad/index.html

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N. E. Felibata 👽 hat dies geteilt

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Adam Hunt

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From here

In the 2017 RfC, the Daily Mail was the first source to be deprecated on Wikipedia, and the decision was challenged and reaffirmed in the 2019 RfC. There is consensus that the Daily Mail (including its online version, MailOnline) is generally unreliable, and its use as a reference is generally prohibited, especially when other sources exist that are more reliable. As a result, the Daily Mail should not be used for determining notability, nor should it be used as a source in articles. The Daily Mail has a "reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism, and flat-out fabrication". The Daily Mail may be used in rare cases in an about-self fashion. Some editors regard the Daily Mail as reliable historically, so old articles may be used in a historical context. (Note that dailymail.co.uk is not trustworthy as a source of past content that was printed in the Daily Mail.) The restriction is often incorrectly interpreted as a "ban" on the Daily Mail. The deprecation includes other editions of the UK Daily Mail, such as the Irish and Scottish editions. The UK Daily Mail is not to be confused with other publications named Daily Mail that are unaffiliated with the UK paper. The dailymail.com domain was previously used by the unaffiliated Charleston Daily Mail, and reference links to that publication are still present.

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Whuffo

3 Wochen her

CNN is the same. They've been caught fabricating news stories.

Adam Hunt

3 Wochen her

Same page says of CNN:

There is consensus that news broadcast or published by CNN is generally reliable. However, iReport consists solely of user-generated content, and talk show content should be treated as opinion pieces. Some editors consider CNN biased, though not to the extent that it affects reliability.

There is no indication CNN has fabricated news stories.

William Robison

3 Wochen her

CNN has had some changes at the top. Some regular viewers have noticed a shift towards the a more conservative point of view. I don't know this from personal experience (I only watch the clips on YouTube), just what I have read and heard.

Adam Hunt

3 Wochen her

Assessed as slightly left: https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart

Whuffo

3 Wochen her

I've seen them faking news. I don't trust CNN - they pick a topic, then find or fake the video to support it.

Adam Hunt

3 Wochen her

Can you give an example of that?

Protestation (Deutsch)

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Albanien_heute_5_1974 http://ciml.250x.com/archive/pla/german/albanien_heute_5_1974.html

Sascha 😎 🏴 ⁂ (Fediverse)

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taz

2024-10-16 17:00:03

Ökonomen für gerechtes Klimageld
Genug für Arme, nichts für Reiche

Von Anja Krüger

Der CO2-Preis wird steigen. Ökonomen des Deutschen Instituts für Wirtschaftsforschung fordern ein Klimageld als Ausgleich für steigende Energiekosten.

#taz #tageszeitung #CO2-Preis #CO2 #DIW #Klimageld #Energiepreise

Ökonomen für gerechtes Klimageld: Genug für Arme, nichts für Reiche
^{Anja Krüger (taz)}

#CO2 #taz #Tageszeitung #DIW #Co2-Preis #Energiepreise #klimageld

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HU Art Sound (2)

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Cyber punk
881687

#cartoon by #Asier Sanz https://asiersanz.com/

Asier

Illustrator, Cartoonist & Collage Artist

^Asier

#Cartoon #Asier

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Birne Helene hat dies geteilt

Protestation (Deutsch)

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Scharfrichter (Peter Walther)

3 Wochen her

»Kein mensch sollte doch dem verderben entrinnen!«

Was im Gilgamesh-Epos bedauert wurde, wird mit einigen Jahrtausenden Verspätung vielleicht demnächst doch noch.
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Scharfrichter (Peter Walther)

3 Wochen her

»Der mensch ist hinterhältig und falsch; er wird auch dir etwas vormachen.«

Gute Nacht mit dem Gilgamesh=Epos.
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Protestation (Deutsch)

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mlwerke.de - Karl Marx und Friedrich Engels: Artikel und Korrespondenzen 1843 http://www.mlwerke.de/me/me_ak43.htm

Girl Of The Sea

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#art #japan #autumn
Tsuchiya Koitsu
Vintage Japanese Woodblock Print. Autumn.
Mount Fuji

#art #japan #autumn

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N. E. Felibata 👽 hat dies geteilt

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Girl Of The Sea

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@ N. E. Felibata 👽
wurstaufbrot@pod.geraspora.de ❤️ Thank you so much.

N. E. Felibata 👽 mag das.

N. E. Felibata 👽

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👋

Reverend Elvis

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Whats up punks? I got bottle up and go.

https://word.undead-network.de/2024/10/15/whats-up-punks-i-got-bottle-up-and-go/
#blues #LightninHopkins #music #punk

Whats up punks? I got bottle up and go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uUVoIaQFzI

^{Undead Blog}

#music #Blues #punk #LightninHopkins

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jrsy

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Ain't that the truth.

Reverend Elvis

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Reverend Elvis

3 Wochen her

Nobody won yesterday's quiz. The correct answer was “borscht”.
Russian: Борщ Ukrainian: Борщ Polska: Barszcz Belarus: Борщ German: Bortschsch
We just ate it ourselves. Love it!

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Reverend Elvis

3 Wochen her

You're bound to have a Slavic restaurant in France. It's so simple but delicious. What pasta is to the Italians, borscht is to the Slavs.

Emmanuel Florac

3 Wochen her

It's just that right now I have a raw beet and some kale 😃

nadloriot

3 Wochen her

Guide de voyage - dessin avec les doigts sur mon téléphone
Guidebook - drawing with my fingers on my phone

#inktober #inktober24

#inktober #inktober24

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Birne Helene hat dies geteilt

fl @fleur

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😄

Kent Paint

3 Wochen her

a handcrafter told me: "a master is able. even with bad instruments."

Birne Helene

3 Wochen her

nadloriot

2024-10-15 10:50:10

Guide de voyage - dessin avec les doigts sur mon téléphone
Guidebook - drawing with my fingers on my phone

#inktober #inktober24

#inktober #inktober24

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Reverend Elvis

3 Wochen her

Never stop learning

https://word.undead-network.de/2024/10/15/never-stop-learning/
#philosophie #philosophy

#Philosophie #philosophy

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N. E. Felibata 👽

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Girl Of The Sea

2024-10-15 03:37:34

#art #japan #autumn
Tsuchiya Koitsu
Vintage Japanese Woodblock Print. Autumn.
Mount Fuji

#art #japan #autumn

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Protestation (Deutsch)

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Albanien_heute_5_1978 http://ciml.250x.com/archive/pla/german/albanien_heute_5_1978.html

Karthikeyan A K 🐧

3 Wochen her

#Agile in practice

#projectManagement #Software

#software #Agile #projectManagement

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Deutsche Welle (inoffiziell)

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In Sierra Leone hat die Bürgermeisterin von Freetown ihre Stadt nachhaltig geprägt - mit einer Million Bäumen, Wasserkiosken und anderen klimafreundlichen Maßnahmen. Die Deutsche Afrika-Stiftung ehrt Yvonne Aki-Sawyerr.

Deutscher Afrika-Preis für umweltfreundliche Bürgermeisterin

^{Martina Schwikowski (Deutsche Welle)}

Netzpolitik|inoffiziell

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Das umstrittene Sicherheitspaket soll noch diese Woche durch den Bundestag gepeitscht werden. Die Pläne bedrohen trotz kosmetischer Änderungen massiv Grund- und Menschenrechte. Wir veröffentlichen die Änderungsanträge der Ampel im Volltext – und analysieren, was sie bedeuten.

„Sicherheitspaket“: Kosmetische Korrekturen an Überwachungsplänen

^{netzpolitik.org}

taz

3 Wochen her

2018 war ein Syrer an der deutschen Grenze zurückgewiesen und ohne Asylprüfung abgeschoben worden. Die Richter sahen gleich mehrere Rechte verletzt. https://taz.de/!6043224

Zurückweisung an der Grenze: Deutschland verurteilt wegen Abschiebung nach Griechenland

^{Christian Jakob (taz)}

Birne Helene

3 Wochen her

Echt jetzt, @taz?

Dass ihr Tom ganz nach unten verbannt habt und die Karikaturen gar nicht mehr zu finden sind, finde ich nicht nett. Falls du Einfluss darauf hast, please exert it!

#taz #layout #alletneu

#taz #Layout #alletneu @taz

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mori melodei

3 Wochen her

@sieer - ja na klar, dein gutes recht - schade, wäre interessant

Harry Göhde

3 Wochen her

der tom auch einfach durch ordentliche karikaturen ersetzt werden:).

Du willst Dich unbeliebt machen? 😡

Die andere andere Karikatur war bei mir fast obenan, ob ich mich an den Rest gewöhnen kann wird sich zeigen... die Schriftgröße ist schon mal gut 👍

(((Tousled Crane on Tour))) mag das.

N. E. Felibata 👽

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WDR (inoffiziell)

2024-10-15 16:19:34

Maus-Ticker: Die Maus-Statue in Köln ist verschwunden

Die Maus-Statue in Köln ist verschwunden – wohl wegen einer Kampagne gegen Kürzungen beim öffentlich-rechtlichen Rundfunk.#Maus #Statue #Köln
Maus-Ticker: Die Maus-Statue in Köln ist verschwunden

#Köln #Maus #statue

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Protestation (Deutsch)

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Die Stunde Null in der Sowjetischen Besatzungszone (SBZ) https://www.ddr-museum.de/de/blog/archive/die-stunde-null-der-sowjetischen-besatzungszone-sbz

Protestation (Deutsch)

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ÖBB erhöht Ticketpreise um durchschnittlich 4,9 Prozent https://zeitungderarbeit.at/panorama/oebb-erhoeht-ticketpreise-um-durchschnittlich-49-prozent/

Birne Helene

3 Wochen her

HU Art Sound (2)

2024-10-15 20:59:17

Cyber punk

#cartoon by #Asier Sanz https://asiersanz.com/

Asier
Illustrator, Cartoonist & Collage Artist
^Asier

#Cartoon #Asier

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Dustsailor

3 Wochen her

#GoodNews - Wiener Grätzloasen bereichern Stadtgesellschaft und erhöhen Aufenthaltsqualitat

In #Wien gibt schon über 100 #Parklets, die sog. "Grätzloasen", begrünte, öffentliche Terrassen aufgestellt auf Parkflächen.
Sie sind Teil eines Aktionsprogrammes und werden von der Stadt mit bis zu 5000 € gefördert.
Die Wiener Bürger*innen können ihre Ideen in
drei Kategorien einreichen: Grüne Parklets, Junge Grätzl und Grätzlleben.

https://wien.orf.at/stories/3277058/

Chronik: Erstmals mehr als 100 Grätzloasen

Das Aktionsprogramm „Grätzloase“ erreicht einen Meilenstein: Über 100 solcher begrünter Parkplätzen gibt es mittlerweile in Wien. Sie sollen das Stadtbild bereichern und die Lebensqualität der Bewohnerinnen und Bewohner verbessern.

^ORF.at

#Wien #GoodNews #Parklets

Protestation (Deutsch)

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W.I. Lenin: Der "Linke Radikalismus", die Kinderkrankheit im Kommunismus (Kap.5) https://www.marxists.org/deutsch/archiv/lenin/1920/linksrad/kap05.html

Protestation (Deutsch)

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Marsch der Kampfgruppen der Arbeiterklasse - March of the Combat Groups of the Working Class https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziH_exOfAag

50.75279855 7.381303798517825

Matthias

3 Wochen her von [ˈloma] | Friendica ⁂⚝

#Tagesschau24 in Dauerschleife. So ne Art Morgenmagazin für Spättaufsteher.
Braucht man das?

#tagesschau24

N. E. Felibata 👽

3 Wochen her von Friendica

Paula Gentle on Friendica

2024-10-16 16:16:55

Und auch hier wieder unterstützt die #GFF den Kampf für die #Freiheitsrechte.

So wichtig! Schon Mitglied?

#Pressefreiheit #FragDenStaat #ArneSemsrott #Journalismus #Spende #GFFwirkt #PoweredByRSS

nd-aktuell.de/artikel/1186069.…

#PoweredByRSS #Journalismus #pressefreiheit #GFF #Freiheitsrechte #Spende #FragdenStaat #ArneSemsrott #GFFwirkt

Benedikt Bauer mag das.

𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️‍⚧️🦋

3 Wochen her

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N. E. Felibata 👽

3 Wochen her

#Wutbürge Krause: https://invidious.jing.rocks/watch?v=I7QYLYXREQ4

#Kuckst du sad

Wutbürger Krause: Darum wähle ich die AfD! | extra 3 | NDR

Weitere Themen wie Merz for Kanzler oder der Streit ums Bürgergeld in der ganzen Folge extra 3. Nur einen Klick entfernt, exklusiv in der ARD Mediathek: https://1.ard.

^{extra 3 | Invidious}

#Kuckst_du #Wutbürge_Krause

N. E. Felibata 👽

3 Wochen her

Khurram Wadee

2024-10-16 16:05:27

Revealed: International ‘race science’ network secretly funded by US tech boss | #Race | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/16/revealed-international-race-science-network-secretly-funded-by-us-tech-boss

#Germany #Ethnicity #Politics #Pseudoscience

#politics #Germany #Race #pseudoscience #ethnicity

Karthikeyan A K 🐧

3 Wochen her

The Women of Eden

2024-10-16 16:34:26

*UnBlogged – Sing The Body Electric!

#NSFW

#nsfw

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